hes got a plan to keep an eye on rumlow he wont give me the details however. keep an eye out for buddy. if he gets sent back hes in trouble that's about all i really know at the moment i dont like it
[You know, he never wanted to blast Garret into a billion pieces either, until he turned on them all. For the most part, Rumlow was okay. He had liked the guy well enough. Thought he was too brash, but a good worker. Now he has issues with him... but he has issues with Ward too. Go figure.]
his appearance here as caused a problem, yes. Those problems are just going to get worse with some of us moving in on him.
Short answer? Yes, I think so. I hope so... i mean I hope that is all he is trying to do.
[A lot of both Bucky's issues and the fact that he could tolerate Rumlow came from him being a handler. On the one hand, he knew what Rumlow was capable of and how he'd treated Bucky. On the other, it was hammered into his mind to be loyal and cooperative.]
[That is a huge fear, right there. If Rumlow gets Barnes and Ward on his side, there really WOULD be an issue around here. And he and his team wouldn't be enough. But... Captain Rogers is here, and maybe that will be enough. Though it seems Rogers is 'working with' Rumlow, according to James. So...]
[He feels sick. This place is worse then home. More so now]
The last thing we want is HYDRA growing here. Even SHIELD can't properly grow here, but HYDRA could make things worse for everyone, monsters and locals.
I don't know. I have my concerns is all. The time I am from, Ward back-stabbed me and my team so many times that it was hard to believe him most of the time. Every time I opened up and tried to accept him, he turned on us. Things are different here though, and he's not lived through all that. I want to believe him, and I am saying this in confidence between the two of us, but I really want to believe him, I just don't know how well I can.
I intend to back him up. Support him. But if he turns on any one of you and it's not part of the plan? I don't know if I can trust him again.
[He didn't think Steve would turn on them, but he was worried that he would get in over his head, be manipulated, hurt. Used. Like Bucky had been. That was his biggest worry, that Rumlow would use Steve.]
Fitz told me some of it. I know he's fucked up, but he's been good to me. He's never made me do anything I didn't want to. Everything's been for my own good or the good of others. I believe in him, I'm just. Worried.
[Phil is worried about that as well, especially considering he's the smaller version of what he was. He doesn't want to see his childhood hero hurt out here either. But that includes Bucky as well...]
Good. The more you know the better. And that's why I want to believe him. Like I said, things re different here. I want to trust him, but after the mistakes i mad with him, it's taking a bit. He's got my trust again, for now. Because of what he's done for you, Leo and Skye.
so I agree, I don't want to see him hurt. But he's god damned determined to do this his way.
[If we were being truthful here, Phil would be FINE if no one at all got hurt. Even Rumlow. Contrary to some beliefs, Phil wasn't really into hurting people.]
when the mistake costs someone their life, it's not a mistake anymore but a tragedy.
at least you've got that to you still. trusting people.
That's what I call it. A loss of a life, especially by a mistake\, is tragic to me. There are exceptions, or people who seem to deserve it, but in the end I still think its tragic in a way.
[Garret needed to die, but all that history, all from a miscommunication, was a tragic loss. He remembers the man as intelligent and good at his job. He hated to lose him. He could see that same logic with a lot of people.]
i can count the number of people I trust with all my heart on one hand. Most of those people are not here. Trusting is very hard and should never be taken lightly.
[Not really. Death and killing being a tragedy was still something he was working on wrapping his head around. But it was a start. He regretted what he'd done when he'd murdered people here, and that guilt was a step in the right direction. So was the guilt he felt over some of things he'd done at home.]
So can I. I consider very carefully if someone is trustworthy.
[And yet you trust Ward. Then again... so did Phil, at some point in time, when he was less jaded.]
am i? Trustworthy? I would like to think so but its not something I can really tell you, much like I can say I might not trust ward but I wont tell you he isn't worthy of trust. i would like to think i can be worthy of anothers trust though. i hear some people think so.
And you? Do you feel you can be trustworthy to others?
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vintageset) wrote2015-06-05 11:00 pm
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We haven't talked much.
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[He was suppose to...]
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I just know he's doing something with Rumlow.
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hes got a plan to keep an eye on rumlow
he wont give me the details however.
keep an eye out for buddy. if he gets sent back hes in trouble
that's about all i really know at the moment
i dont like it
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He doesn't have to do that. It's as stupid as Steve working with Rumlow.
This is my fault, isn't it? I told Grant Rumlow was here.
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[please don't make him worry that you'll side with rumlow too]
i tried to tell him that as well
he has it in his mind that this is needed. that the man will be the start of all our problems.
I wouldn't say this is your fault, no. He would have found out anyhow.
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He IS causing problems, because people think he will cause problems and try to keep an eye on him. There were no problems before that.
But I told him. And I was scared. I must have worried him. Is he trying to protect us?
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his appearance here as caused a problem, yes. Those problems are just going to get worse with some of us moving in on him.
Short answer? Yes, I think so. I hope so...
i mean I hope that is all he is trying to do.
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He wants me back. As HYDRA's asset.
What else would Grant be trying to do?
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[He feels sick. This place is worse then home. More so now]
The last thing we want is HYDRA growing here. Even SHIELD can't properly grow here, but HYDRA could make things worse for everyone, monsters and locals.
I don't know. I have my concerns is all. The time I am from, Ward back-stabbed me and my team so many times that it was hard to believe him most of the time. Every time I opened up and tried to accept him, he turned on us. Things are different here though, and he's not lived through all that. I want to believe him, and I am saying this in confidence between the two of us, but I really want to believe him, I just don't know how well I can.
I intend to back him up. Support him. But if he turns on any one of you and it's not part of the plan? I don't know if I can trust him again.
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Fitz told me some of it. I know he's fucked up, but he's been good to me. He's never made me do anything I didn't want to. Everything's been for my own good or the good of others. I believe in him, I'm just. Worried.
I don't want him to get hurt.
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But that includes Bucky as well...]Good. The more you know the better. And that's why I want to believe him. Like I said, things re different here. I want to trust him, but after the mistakes i mad with him, it's taking a bit. He's got my trust again, for now. Because of what he's done for you, Leo and Skye.
so I agree, I don't want to see him hurt. But he's god damned determined to do this his way.
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Everyone makes mistakes. It's a human thing.
I trust him wholly, terrible things or not. I just wish I was there or something.
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when the mistake costs someone their life, it's not a mistake anymore but a tragedy.
at least you've got that to you still. trusting people.
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[He wasn't even being sarcastic. Usually deaths are good, mission success. But when they're bad, it's a failure.]
Trusting is hard. I only trust a few people.
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[Garret needed to die, but all that history, all from a miscommunication, was a tragic loss. He remembers the man as intelligent and good at his job. He hated to lose him. He could see that same logic with a lot of people.]
i can count the number of people I trust with all my heart on one hand. Most of those people are not here. Trusting is very hard and should never be taken lightly.
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[Not really. Death and killing being a tragedy was still something he was working on wrapping his head around. But it was a start. He regretted what he'd done when he'd murdered people here, and that guilt was a step in the right direction. So was the guilt he felt over some of things he'd done at home.]
So can I. I consider very carefully if someone is trustworthy.
Are you?
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am i? Trustworthy?
I would like to think so but its not something I can really tell you, much like I can say I might not trust ward but I wont tell you he isn't worthy of trust. i would like to think i can be worthy of anothers trust though. i hear some people think so.
And you? Do you feel you can be trustworthy to others?
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Maybe. I don't want to hurt anyone, and I want to protect my friends. That's a start, isn't it?
Grant told me to be careful around you.
[That wasn't part of what he'd promised not to tell, so it was okay.]
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Im sure he did. [Of course he did] its not bad advice, but i also think you should be careful around everyone.
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Did he talk to you about. Anything?
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'Anything' is a bit vague though, as we have spoken a few times.
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It was about a woman.
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